I don’t want to sound or become negative about Mac Hammond , because I do like him. I was researching some information on him. Remember how he’s talked about his CargoCompany that he use to own / and or run before he became a minister / pastor?
I have one important question: if you are a pastor do you not have to pay taxes?
Well I read this for a fact in the Star & Tribune that his business had failed and that he owed the IRS $100,000 in back taxes. It didn’t say the reasoning for the back taxes but if you pay your taxes every year like you should , you should not owe the IRS anything.
I had a friend one time who told me they owed the IRS $13,000 in back taxes because of how he filled out his W2 form so that he wouldn’t have to pay taxes on his paycheck. Well it finally had caught up to him and they are automatically taking money out of his paycheck every time he get’s paid. Which leaves him with very little to work with.
And this was something of his own doing. The fact that Kenneth Copeland does not want to turn over financial records, really leaves me feeling bothered about the whole thing. Like I said I really do like Mac Hammond. So I don’t know what to think about the whole thing.
I do know that a letter was sent to the congregation. I don’t have a copy of the letter. So I don’t know what it says. Brian Sullivan was worried about the integrity of the investigation and I can see that.
Here are some excerpts from articles I’ve found:
http://www.startribune.com/local/north/15724587.html
States that Kenneth Copeland who is affiliated with Mac Hammond’s church states that he does not want to turn over financial records.
Here is an excerpt from the article read what he has to say :
Kenneth Copeland aggressively rejected the Senate Finance Committee request for records. “It’s not yours, it’s God’s, and you’re not going to get it — and that’s something I’ll go to prison over,” Copeland said at a meeting of prosperity ministers he sponsored in January.
Dealing with less prosperity, Mac Hammond’s church cuts back
Kenneth Copeland aggressively rejected the Senate Finance Committee request for records. … © 2008 Star Tribune. All rights reserved. …www.startribune.com/local/north/15724587.html – 76k
Dealing with less prosperity, Mac Hammond’s church cuts back
(my opinion) Yes – this could be a direct hit from the economy and has absolutely nothing to do with the investigation or it could.
This is not Hammond’s first brush with the IRS. After an air cargo company he owned failed in the 1980s, Hammond owed more than $100,000 in back taxes and interest, which he ultimately paid.
Hammond said in court documents in 1988 that, “We had no personal assets of any significance [in 1981], and still have none: we do not own a home, we do not have an investment/retirement/savings accounts.”
Hammond has since prospered. Last year, records show, his Destin homes were worth more than $3 million. He pays no taxes on his Plymouth home, and has a number of luxury vehicles and boats registered in his name.
Hammond has expressed disdain for the IRS, including an allegation in 1988 court files that “the IRS has conducted itself in a disgusting manner, with arrogant disregard for the moral, ethical and legal standards that no office of government should be above.”
A former board member of Hammond’s church, Robert Beale, was convicted this summer of tax fraud and fleeing to avoid prosecution. The church distanced itself from Beale after he was arrested, saying Hammond disagreed with Beale’s antitax philosophy.
Hammond’s church’s creed, often called the “prosperity Gospel,” says that following God’s word will lead not only to spiritual salvation but also earthly wealth.
“I think it’s important that I not be embarrassed about the increase the Lord does bring me,” Hammond said last year.
Jon Tevlin • 612-673-1702
http://www.startribune.com/27251534.html?page=3&c=y
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AmeriKan said:
missjen92….Let’s get the record straight here. The IRS is the overseer of all 501(c)(3) status and is grueling in their requirements. Kenneth Copeland Ministries turned over ALL records including the financial ones required by the IRS. After hundreds of pages of documents, much time, effort and money on behalf of KCM, they were given a clean slate of approval for their tax exempt status. Ever been audited by the IRS(?)…not pleasant!!
Grassley has ulterior motives in his arsenal and I do not blame some of the ministries for ignoring his superfluous and biased requests.
Blessings,
AmeriKan
# September 18, 2008 11:04 AM [Delete]
missjen92 said:
Who is Grassley
# September 18, 2008 1:24 PM [Delete]
AmeriKan said:
Oh my, missjen92…the Grassley issue has been all over the news for over 12 months. Sen Grassley is the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. After complaints by those like Ole Anthony and his Charismatic/WOF self-appointed police, Grassley called into question the finances of six well-known TV preachers. These six ministries are already governed by the IRS and I believe all six have met the IRS requirements for tax exempt status. Several of their IRS letters have been made public. Grassley is Baptist and takes exception with Charismatic/WOF teachings…this is not his decision to make as a Senator…only as a private individual. What Grassley has created has been a media circus resulting in the waste of time, manpower, and $$$ for these ministries to further satisfy his unfounded “concerns.”
Blessings,
AmeriKan
# September 18, 2008 1:49 PM [Delete]
missjen92 said:
I haven’t been following this investigation very closely so that is why I asked who he was. I don’t have all the details so that is why I am asking all of these questions. There has been some wrong doing that was done by a former board member.
But it’s good to know that they have been cleared.
Say, one more thing do you or anyone that you know have a copy of the letter that was sent to the congregation?
This is good news.
# September 18, 2008 4:04 PM [Delete]
slim said:
missjen92, I have found out it is best to be certain of your facts before you post. I have made the mistake of just taking things off the internet and posting on blogs and forums, sort of embarrassing, if you know what I mean.
I am not attempting to tell you what or how to blog, but rumors get started or are spread when we don’t check out our sources before hand and we can get in trouble.
In Love.
# September 18, 2008 7:28 PM [Delete]
CMW said:
This link will take you to the letter and all of the correspondence that Kenneth Copeland Ministries has had with everyone.
www.kcm.org/…/index.php
Please be very careful what you say about men of God such as Kenneth Copeland. Yes, he is human and can make mistakes but the Bible still says “touch not my annointed”. God will protect those He has called and I definitely wouldn’t want to get in the way of that. From what I understand of the situation, I see nothing wrong with how they have handled it and I stand by them 100%. KCM has brought life changing teachings into our family and for that we will be forever grateful!
CMW
# September 18, 2008 7:50 PM [Delete]
missjen92 said:
Guys…..All I am trying to do is get the facts.
God can’t punish me for doing that!! All I did was
post what was in the papers. Remember, I did not
write what was written in the papers. That was all
I did. I am not attacking anyone. I’m just
researching. And I have a right to do that. I am
not “persuing” an annointed one. I’m not going after
anyone who is annointed.
I am a Christian who feels that my faith is being
attacked by what is in the media. All I want are
facts.
I am trying to keep my faith strong by doing this
kind of research to keep my mind at ease.
# September 18, 2008 11:16 PM [Delete]
REDWRISTBAND said:
Another comment in love…Grace is not my strong suit.
First you state…Well I read this for a fact in the Star & Tribune. I would be hard pressed to accept as fact everything I read or hear from the MEDIA.
Yes Pastor Mac said he had back taxes and has paid them in full…owing no man. I have had back taxes, a long time ago as well, paid off end of story.
Kenneth Copeland is old news…over and done.
Why post this trash again, (trash my opinion) but to me Jon Tevlin is not fond of the Christian community at all. Read up on Jon Tevlin a little you will find an old post about him…if we assume is true… copying ie plagiarizing a fellow columnists article. That’s nasty is his line of work.
You are a member of Living Word??? In another post you state…I am a member of the church and I LOVE the church. I love the atmosphere and everything about it. I love the energy and especially the music. I just wanted to clear my conscious (spelling?) of Macof (sic) any wrong doing.
There were copies of the LETTER on the counter and there was a mailing how did you not get one? That part has me puzzled.
You also say…There has been some wrong doing that was done by a former board member. The church distanced itself from Beale after he was arrested, saying Hammond disagreed with Beale’s antitax philosophy….STAR TRIBUNE IS WRONG and you are re posting trash…..
The old board member is old alright like 10 years ago old. It is in the letter…over ten years has elapsed since Mr Beale resigned from the advisory board not the legal corporate board.
You know, bottom line, we can seek comfort and compassion we think we are doing the right thing and sometimes we need a kick in the rear to redirect us…my opinion….and I speak for myself as I find myself needing some readjusting more often than I like to admit.
But the devil would love for us to chase our tails all day instead of doing what God put us here to do.
This did bug me at first but God is bigger than any man or circumstance and if Pastor Mac or any other of the Men in question are wrong…bad…corrupt…God Himself will remove them…all I need to know…Thanks
# September 19, 2008 1:44 AM [Delete]
missjen92 said:
Thanks for the comment. But as I stated several times before. I am TRYING TO GET ALL THE FACTS STRAIGHT. I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYONE DOWN. I DIDN’T NOT WRITE WHAT WAS IN THE PAPERS. THEY WROTE IT NOT ME.
YOU CAN NOT ACCUSE ME OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE PAPERS. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. I HAVE MY OWN ISSUES IN LIFE THAT I AM TRYING TO DEAL WITH.
I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ATTACKING ME NOW. FOR WHAT WAS SAID IN THE PAPERS. YOU CAN’T DO THAT. I’VE STATED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, THAT IT’S ALL RESEARCH. I’M TRYING TO PROVIDE MYSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING ON THE SUBJECT.
I AM NOT PUTTING MAC HAMMOND DOWN FOR ANYTHING. YES – I DID SEE HE ULTIMATELY PAID ALL THE MONEY BACK. GOOD FOR HIM.
YOU CAN’T GET UPSET WITH ME FOR THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THEY HAPPENED. I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO RESEARCH AND DO FACT FINDING.
I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EXPRESS MYSELF ON MY OWN BLOG. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MAC HAMMOND OR KENNETH COPELAND AT ALL. I AM NOT GOING AFTER ANYONE AND ATTACKING ANYONE.
ALL I AM DOING IS FACT FINDING. PLEASE DO NOT ATTACK ME. I AM A CHRISTIAN AND FELLOW CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT BE ATTACKING EACHOTHER ON A SUBJECT LIKE THIS.
WE ARE SUPPOSE TO FELLOWSHIP AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER NOT ATTACK ONE ANOTHER.
I AM NOT THE ONE TO BLAME OR PUT BLAME ON FOR THIS SITUATION.
DO NOT ATTACK ME. THESE ARE MY RIGHTS TO REARCH THESE THINGS.
DO NOT ATTACK ME. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING BY STATING “WELL THE LETTERS WERE ON THE COUNTER AT CHURCH.”
LIKE SAYING DUH, WHY DIDN’T YOU PICK ON UP STUPID????
DON’T DO THAT.
# September 19, 2008 9:49 AM [Delete]
AmeriKan said:
You both are right…to a degree. The facts are out there to be researched. But we must be careful where we get our “facts” because most local city newspapers do not get it right and it is often completely wrong. Other liberal sights including national media sites are totally biased. I often go directly to the “horse’s mouth” as in KCM’s site and get exactly what they have said and are doing on the issue.
And as was said, the local church also has good info on issues.
And, Cfaith, is also a good place to bone up on the issues with the info and resources we have. Either way, we love you, Missjen92 and keep up your diligence .
Blessings,
AmeriKan